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This morning one of the guys asked me a couple of questions about Pack-And-Go and following the questions I found he is having "Can't save because of a corrupt file" issues with his assembly. I was seeing this yesterday and in talking in the office we learned that the other engineer here is seeing the same thing. I searched the forum but did not get any recent hits for corrupt files so I thought I would ask so I could add to someone Else's SPR if there is one open. This did not start happening until we "Upgraded" to SP2 last week. We currently are only seeing this with assemblies.

 

     The issue is that when creating an assembly we are suddenly consistently unable to save the assembly due to a "Corrupt File" error. One of the engineers stated that if he "just kept trying" it would eventually save the file. That has not worked for the other two of us. Yesterday I learned that if I saved the assembly after every new feature (cut or part added and placed) I had no problem. But let me forget and add and mate 2 or 3 new parts, even if they are the same part and I will get the corrupt file every time. I am making an auger that consists of 1) a base tube, 2) several sections of flighting and 3) several flighting stiffeners a total of 3 distinct parts. And yet with all of those items in the assembly I get a corrupt file for adding another one and mating it in the same manner as the previous one.

 

If someone has been having this issue and started a SPR please let me know. In the mean time I will start a  SW RX and send it off to FunTech to get it started.


Categories: Modeling and Assemblies, Assemblies

Comments
Last comment By: Chris Berry   Thu, 25 May 2017 07:36:22 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

As soon as we can convince SW that a SR is warranted I will get the number to you.

 

Thank you

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:04:24 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Wish I could add a stack of likes here.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:05:40 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

SP03 is now available for download.

By: Andreas Rhomberg  Tue, 25 Apr 2017 17:48:57 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Figures, after waiting so long I installed the EV yesterday.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:25:28 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

     Are you sure I still only see EV.

By: David Nelson  Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:32:55 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

i'm sure.99%

try to go thru, check for updates, is showed up this way.

 

By: Andreas Rhomberg  Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:39:50 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Yep shows as SP3 for me that way.

By: David Nelson  Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:45:35 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Any thoughts on SP3, anybody?

By: Scott Casale  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:52:37 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

To date I have had no problems saving after going to 3.0 but I am reluctant to give it a clean bill of health since the issue has disappeared for weeks at a time in the past.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:59:44 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Jim Steinmeyer,

I posted in another thread that Dassault had something like 37 crash fixes in SP3, released a few days ago.  It seems appropriate to post what those crash fixes were and to get a consensus of whether most of the bugs have been fixed or whether people should wait for SP4.  So, here's the list:

  

SPRDescription
588132User Interface - General, OLE: Crash switching between open documents with Ctrl+Tab when one document contains an embedded Excel object (OLE).
643835Parts, Ref Geometry Flexible, Rigid: File specific: Crash inserting new assembly into existing assembly in presence of flexible sub-assembly.
652381Drawings, Save - Close, Annotations: Crash closing drawing where annotation view, with imported design annotations, has Geometric Tolerance (GTOL) attached to dimension
653793Assemblies- Lightweight: Crash closing assembly after setting resolved to lightweight
835594Assemblies, Treehouse - General: Treehouse crashes or hangs on start with network templates with limited user accounts.
843859User Interface - General: SOLIDWORKS 2015 - Specific steps and file to produce a crash .
874948User Interface - Feature Manager: Generic Crash when dragging appearance and dropping in FeatureManager tree of another part
889579User Interface, Feature Manager: FeatureManager - Dynamic Reference Visualization - SOLIDWORKS crashes when selecting a Trim Feature
900009Drawings, Annotations - Part, Assy MBD - General: SOLIDWORKS crash when "update previews" in 3D Views when there is an Excel sheet inserted as OLE.
907682Assembly - Exploded: SOLIDWORKS Crash after editing this exploded assembly.
911024Assembly - General, Feature - Weld Bead: Attached assembly crashes while closing after doing any changes in assembly.
913888Drawings, Annotations - Cosmetic Threads: Crash inserting Cosmetic thread (Insert> Annotation> Cosmetic Thread) in this Drawing file.
923321Drawings, Dimension: Crash with stack 'slduiu!moAdvancedBBCalculator::iGetData'
931833User Interface - General API: SOLIDWORKS crash if "segment" is inserted as icon in command manager of sketch when using an custom add-in.
935780Parts, Feature - Extrude:: SOLIDWORKS crashes on UNDO after editing. <File Specific>
935888Translator - SAT : SOLIDWORKS crash while saving part as .SAT with 'Write multi body part into a single ACIS body' option checked.
937147Part, Save - Close: Assert - File: unitvec.cpp Author: UnitVec Line: 594 Corruption: Crash when closing this part.
945030Drawings, Dimension - DimXpert: Crash when opening this file , caused by some suppressed DimXpert dimensions with errors.
946350Assemblies - Save, Close: Crash when "Save As" of assembly with include all reference components with prefix or suffix.
950055Systems Document Templates: SOLIDWORKS crash after inserting a title block in this part >View Orientation > mouse over View Selector cube in the Graphics Area. <Template specific>
950775eDrawings - Publisher:Crash when saving to eDrawings from a Speedpak configuration.
957901Assemblies, Mate - Advanced: Crash moving components, with magnetic mates, with Physical Dynamics
968182Drawings, Annotations - Cosmetic Threads: sldbgproc.exe crashes (sldbgproc has stopped working...) after you switch Cosmetic thread Display from Draft to High quality.
974108Parts, Surface - Offset: SOLIDWORKS crashes editing Surface Offset feature / while creating surfaces in this Part file.
978307User Interface, Selection, Feature Manager: SOLIDWORKS crashes when trying to update a selection set of multiple selections including a reference plane.
980421Assemblies, Explode - Assy Feature - Weld Bead: File Specific: SOLIDWORKS crash after creating exploded view > CTRL+B to rebuild caused by Weld bead.
984537Graphics, Display - Parts:Crash with transparent models open and ambient occlusion active.
986086User Interface, Selection Assembly - General: SOLIDWORKS crashes when selecting any face of a part in an assembly. File specific.
995014Assemblies, Mate - Standard: Assembly crash when a fix tube is linked to another part using tangent mate and then moving the other body.
998300Parts, Toolbox - Hole Wizard Data: SOLIDWORKS Crashes when using Hole series with specific Fit. 'SOLIDWORKS XXXX has encountered an error and need to close'.
1006440Assemblies - Lightweight: Crash when changing assembly to lightweight and closing the file or setting lightweight back to resolved.
1006528Parts, Feature - Chanmfer: There is a systematic crash with a specific approach.
1006629Parts, Feature - Extrude : software crash upon feature edit, file specific.
1007393Parts, Feature - Cut List: "(Template specific) Crash when updating the cutlist after insert a library feature"
1008848Drawing Views - Section Views: Corrupt Section View in Drawing Crashes SOLIDWORKS. <file specific>
1009941Assemblies - Configurations: Specific Configurations workflow: configs are not added configuration manager tree in specific assembly, crash on reopen after save.
1016336Drawings - Layers, Line font: Crash when switching component line fonts in drawing views.
By: Matt Peneguy  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:10:23 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Wow, in glancing through this list, there are quite a few things that I would never think to/ have reason to do. Just gives you a pause to wonder how the developers can anticipate all the possible uses and check that the system won't crash. One reason the BATA program is so helpful.

 

     After reading that does anyone else question if they ever want to ride in a driver-less car?

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:25:20 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

I drove professionally for 9 years. IMO, A driver-less vehicle is just silly that businesses are wasting their time on them. That's aside from your point, but a relevant to it as well.

By: Scott Casale  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:11:15 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Jim, I probably don't need to remind you, but for the benefit of others:

 

1.  You already paid for SP0, SP1, etc.!!!  Perhaps maintenance should not be due until the software is legit!

2.  If YOU wait til SP3, I wait til SP3, and everybody else, then SP3 won't be any good.  Its the early adopters that find the problems.

By: Dan Golthing  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:18:23 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Yeah, Jim Steinmeyer I agree. 

The pessimist in me would say, it could be that there are a whole lot of ER's related to crashes out there and somebody in management told them to fix as many as possible.  So, possibly they focused on the low hanging fruit, the easy fixes.

But, I'd like to think that is not the case.  I am encouraged that they seem focused on bug fixes, probably in large part because of you, and all the people on this forum.  Thanks everyone. (I don't want to try to mention all of the people, If I tried I'd be going through the forums for hours and I know I'd still leave people out.)

Keep up the good work!

By: Matt Peneguy  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:30:06 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Dan,

You make valid points. However, Matt is preparing to make the Leap of Death and move to 2017 2.0 my suggestion is to be sure to go to 3.0 instead since it is already out.

     Now as far as suggesting we all be early adapters and take the plunge at 2018 SP 0.0, what do you suggest I do when I get to the point where 1/4 of my files say "corrupt file" when I go to save them and the only option is to crash out and save them again? Can I bill SW for the time that I waste during the day while attempting to get my work done? After all from your comment we are doing their bug testing for them. And we did get into 2017 at 0.0 just for your information, the first time we have done that here.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:31:30 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Jim Steinmeyer,

You are exactly right!  Someone I think on the ONE and TWO thread stated basically the same thing.  The model where they release a major release every year is broken.  Either they don't have or don't allocate enough resources to be able to manage such a complicated piece of software and make a major release every year.

So, we become the beta testers. 

This is why what you guys on this forum, with this thread, the ONE and TWO thread and other threads is so important.

By: Matt Peneguy  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:57:56 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Nothing you can do about it.  Now that you didn't specifically list all the names, they're all offended .

 

Really, it is anybody's guess what determines the priorities on getting bugs fixed.  I've reported some that have never been fixed.  Some are regressions - which supposedly take a higher priority.

By: Tom Helsley  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:29:30 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Well, I loaded SP 3 and the problems with mate instability are still there.

 

As I mentioned before, I had a large assembly in SW 2014 that behaved perfectly but when imported into SW 2017 many of the mates gave errors, both red and yellow.  Even redoing the mates has not guaranteed stability.  I can save and close a 'fixed' assembly but on re opening it or, sometimes, changing configurations, the mates go crazy.  This has become incredibly frustrating.

A huge amount of time is spent trying to find a combination of mates that are stable when the same mates used to be fine in previous SW versions.

 

Hard to believe that Solidworks has a version that is not UPWARD compatible.

 

Two other bugs I've found:

 

- When I create a sub assembly by highlighting components and using the 'make assembly here' command and then I export the new assembly using Pack and Go or Find References, some assembly components are left out.

 

- I had an imported part (was an stp file originally) that had an arc that I needed to measure from its midpoint to a plane.  When I right clicked on the edge to select the midpoint, there is no choice for midpoint anymore.  Out of curiosity, I imported it into an earlier version of SW and the midpoint selection was available.

By: Manuel Robalino  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:40:34 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Ahh, to early adopt or not to early adopt, that is the question.

 

In my experience, it is easier for smaller companies with fewer installations to adopt early and upgrade service packs more often, but other factors also exist.  Admin image deployments for larger installations sites take a lot more work, testing, preparing, and planning.

 

Since I have so many installations to manage, unless there is a specific reason, I usually don't deploy company wide until I have tested the service pack and I am confident enough that I won't have any "show-stopping" problems.  But I do try to install the latest service pack on at least one machine.

 

That said, there is no way I, or anyone else can test every situation and catch all the problems, so I really appreciate those of you in the forums reporting potential "show-stopping" problems like file corruption.

 

Thanks, everyone.

By: Tom Helsley  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:43:32 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

The next time try this -

 

Open an assembly - if there's a Forest Fire in the feature tree - suppress everything and un-suppress each item one by one...  If you have a mess of sub-assemblies open and fix them first, most errors will clear up when done this way. 

By: John Stoltzfus  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:46:02 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

But, did you experience any file corruption problems that prevented you from saving or re-opening the files?

By: Tom Helsley  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:48:25 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

I think this bugger here is responsible for a lot of extra mate errors you might be seeing.  I'm not 100% sure, but I think this option was not there in 2014.  If you have it on, try turning it off and see if your errors go away.

 

missing mate references.jpg

By: Andy Sanders  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:52:52 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Thanks Andy.  I'll try that and see what happens.

By: Manuel Robalino  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:07:04 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

No file corruption thank goodness, just the missing components.

I figure I'll just recreate the sub assembly from scratch and then insert it into the higher assembly.

By: Manuel Robalino  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:08:33 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Forest Fire!  Good term!

That's what I've been doing but it's a ton of work that I wouldn't/shouldn't have to do if they were working fine in a previous release.

By: Manuel Robalino  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:10:09 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Not saying we want to - but the shop needs drawings and we can't wait on SW for a fix

By: John Stoltzfus  Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:13:08 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

What's the consensus on SP3? Is it fixing the corruption issue? We're currently working with SW2015, SP 5.0 with Windows 10 Pro, We have the disks for 2017, but I don't want to change over if there's going to be a problem with file corruptions. Additionally, We want to eventually add their PDM software, so we will have to upgrade to 2017 in order to do so.

 

When we upgrade to 2017, do we have to install each service pack, or just the latest one?

 

Thanks!

By: Al Griego  Mon, 01 May 2017 16:22:53 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

You an install 3.0 right off the rip.

 

I'm awaiting the consensus for 3.0 as well

By: Scott Casale  Mon, 01 May 2017 16:33:24 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

I would like to know also we go to 17 tomorrow.

By: David Nelson  Mon, 01 May 2017 16:38:32 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Al,

 

I have been running SP03 EV and Sp03 since it came out.

Not a single corrupt file Issue in approximately 1 month .

You do not have to install all SP's, go with SP03 only.

By: Andreas Rhomberg  Mon, 01 May 2017 16:45:14 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

As Andreas said, so far so good. We are not as far into using SP 3.0 as he is but we also have not seen an issue since the upgrade.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Mon, 01 May 2017 16:51:04 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Thanks for your help. We've had the disks for a while, but I have been hesitant to upgrade, especially after the UI issues in 2016.

By: Al Griego  Mon, 01 May 2017 17:38:24 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Al, no reason to use the Disk if it is not the latest.

Either go online and download the latest or use "check for updates"

 

By: Andreas Rhomberg  Mon, 01 May 2017 17:47:49 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Manuel Robalino wrote:

 

Forest Fire! Good term!

That's what I've been doing but it's a ton of work that I wouldn't/shouldn't have to do if they were working fine in a previous release.

We call it "Shock and Awe".

By: Chris Clouser  Mon, 01 May 2017 18:15:20 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Just for everyone's information, there is report of the corrupt file still being an issue in 3.0

https://forum.solidworks.com/inbox

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Wed, 03 May 2017 13:01:02 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Great.  There goes the upgrade I was planning.

By: Andy Sanders  Wed, 03 May 2017 13:04:27 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

We installed 3 yesterday. No major issues yet. One file corrupted, has a lot of routing parts and virtual parts. Working around as it seems the virtual parts were the issue...

By: Scott Casale  Wed, 03 May 2017 13:40:00 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

BTW, the link you shared brings everyone to their own inbox, silly... ???

By: Scott Casale  Wed, 03 May 2017 13:40:59 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

So far no one here has had any issues but then there was a spell of a couple of weeks with 2.0 that we had no issues and then the problem came back so I wanted to raise the flag.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Wed, 03 May 2017 13:41:08 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Jim Steinmeyer wrote:

 

...and then the problem came back so I wanted to raise the flag.

upside down ?

 

By: Peter De Vlieger  Wed, 03 May 2017 13:52:05 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

If it's just a random issue, that's okay. If it's as common as before SP3 came out, then I think we'll hold off on upgrading. Fortunately, we don't use virtual parts here, so that won't be an issue with us. Please keep us up to date on this.

 

Thanks!

By: Al Griego  Wed, 03 May 2017 14:12:07 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

One more question: Is this only happening in native mode or is it also happening under Solidworks PDM?

 

Thanks!

By: Al Griego  Wed, 03 May 2017 14:18:37 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

We do not have PDM (yet) so I can't answer that completely.

     As far as random, it has always appeared to be random. We would go a couple of days with no problems and then suddenly several parts/assemblies/drawings would have issues. then it might be later in the day or several days again before it reared it's ugly head. Then it went away for a couple of weeks and when it came back some drawings wouldn't even save with a rename. Then it went away again. RANDOM. Now no problems since 3.0 but as I posted someone else on the other thread just mentioned having problems this morning.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Wed, 03 May 2017 15:34:07 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

We also are having this very annoying problem, we are still on SP1 because we haven't seen any reports of this being fixed in 2.0 or 3.0?

By: Aaron Heathcote  Wed, 03 May 2017 15:41:25 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Aaron Heathcote, if you are using SWX2017 and cannot go back to 2016 or earlier then you might as well go to SWX2017 SP3.0.  From all appearances 3.0 is far, far better then the abominations of SP1.0 and 2.0.  Besides, SWX wouldn't think of introducing new problems, would they? 

By: Dennis Dohogne  Wed, 03 May 2017 16:24:18 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

One thing I noticed a difference on.It seems to be more difficult to select edges in a drawing, as it wasn't tricky enough before.

Now any Edge that is not a crisp square Edge takes several tries to get it to select.

This is definitely noticeable on Dimensions and creating Center-lines.

Very frustrating , this is what you get selecting the outer Edges of the Square Tube.

 

if I select the the Top Tangent Lines it works fine, unfortunately on rounds there are no other options to pick

 

For Dimensions sometimes I have to zoom in/ out and click several times to get a selection.

By: Andreas Rhomberg  Wed, 03 May 2017 17:08:07 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Went to 2017 sp3 last week.  Had several times I had to redo a 3 piece assembly .  And each one was a different assembly. have it all done need to do a small dim change and it will not save.

By: David Nelson  Tue, 16 May 2017 22:22:23 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Not good. So far we have had no problems with SP 3.0. Have you tried the tricks of saving it with a different name or creating a new configuration to save?

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Wed, 17 May 2017 13:14:59 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Yep different name was no help.  But all day yesterday I had no problems with larger assemblies.

 

Monday it even reset a number of my settings, had to use the configuration wizard to return them to normal and after that the problems of corrupt assemblies went away.  For now.

By: David Nelson  Wed, 17 May 2017 14:52:55 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

We just went to SP3.0 a week or two ago - it seemed good for a while, and then it reared its corrupt, ugly head again . . .

This morning I did some stuff that could land me here - What do your co-workers do with SOLIDWORKS that makes your blood boil?

But it seems to have resolved the issue (also . . . for now . . .)

By: Todd Blacksher  Wed, 17 May 2017 16:50:53 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

ONE and TWO

ONE and TWO

ONE and TWO

ONE and TWO

ONE and TWO

ONE and TWO

We have to harp on this until it is no longer an issue!!!

By: Dennis Dohogne  Wed, 17 May 2017 18:32:22 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

David Nelson wrote:

 

Yep different name was no help. But all day yesterday I had no problems with larger assemblies.

 

Monday it even reset a number of my settings, had to use the configuration wizard to return them to normal and after that the problems of corrupt assemblies went away. For now.

Prophetic words: For now.

 

With the distrust that SWX2017 has instilled in me I heartily share your "optimism".

By: Dennis Dohogne  Wed, 17 May 2017 15:13:06 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Todd Blacksher and David Nelson,

Seems both of you were experiencing crashes yesterday that are gone today.  Let us know if you experience crashes next Tuesday, also... Then we'll know not to work on large assemblies on Tuesdays.  I'd like to see that SPR...

By: Matt Peneguy  Wed, 17 May 2017 19:00:33 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

maybe something to do with this?

 

By: Andreas Rhomberg  Wed, 17 May 2017 19:08:00 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

That is a possibility, we are still on Win 7 thankfully and have not seen this re-occurrence as of yet. As Dennis Dohogne would say.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Wed, 17 May 2017 19:23:30 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

You picked up on that, Jim Steinmeyer.  I'm so disgusted with SWX2017 that I'm not sure I'll even try SP3.0.  I only installed 3.0 for the files that have already been converted to '17 and I have no choice, but I hold my breath with each click and make frequent saves and backups.  Hardly the actions I expect to take with a software product that has over 20 years of development.

By: Dennis Dohogne  Wed, 17 May 2017 19:33:38 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Andreas Rhomberg I was being sarcastic!...I didn't even think about Patch Tuesday!  I guess Microsoft is still rolling out those patches on Tuesdays.

By: Matt Peneguy  Wed, 17 May 2017 20:05:42 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Man you would think they know what's wrong with all the complainants. I'm on SP3 and having all kinds of crashes. But when I run the RX, it seams not to crash. go figure

By: Todd Bush  Wed, 17 May 2017 20:16:58 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

I have had the same problem creating an RX to send off. Maybe if we just did all of our modeling while running the RX?

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Wed, 17 May 2017 20:24:00 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

we had a guy run it all day Monday. it never crashed. On Tuesday not running the RX it crashed...

By: Todd Bush  Wed, 17 May 2017 20:37:28 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Windows updates, that's one of the first places I look at when I have strange behavior.

until you disable to upgrade the Graphics Card driver automatically, the windows updates sometimes update the driver.

We all know how fragile SW is with the Graphics Card/ driver.

By: Andreas Rhomberg  Wed, 17 May 2017 20:53:32 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

It sounds like you guys are saying that SolidWorks is ransomware.  You have to keep paying and updating for it to work, or kind of work.  The magic service pack that will fix all your problems are just around the corner  If you stop paying, you're stuck at a release that probably has major issues.

By: Dan Golthing  Wed, 17 May 2017 21:45:59 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

So far the response from Go Engineer has been to blame the network, the network cards, the OS, not having a UPS, old drivers, bad hard drive and network traffic interference. After explaining AGAIN that we are working off of local copies of the files, this is happening on multiple machines/platforms, all our workstations have UPSs on them and this didn't start till we installed SP2 and wasn't fixed with SP3, the response was we must have a corrupted install of SP2 and SP3 on our machines due to antivirus software on the machines and we need to download a complete install package, turn off all anitvirus/malware/spam filters and programs and then install the package. I don't have time and our design engineers don't have the patience for all that blame game crap so SW2017SP3 got deleted and a clean install of 2017SP1 went back on. Maybe once we get this current project complete I/we will have time to chase our tail while SolidWorks and GoEngineer point fingers at everyone and everything else.

By: John Kochan  Thu, 18 May 2017 12:10:48 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

I'm so confused now whether it's ok to install or not....

Still on 2016 SP5 for now.

By: Andy Sanders  Thu, 18 May 2017 17:09:00 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

I would wait a little if there's no hurry to get to 17. Yesterday was full curup assembly files, least 4. Now today so far nothing. Who knows why

By: Todd Bush  Thu, 18 May 2017 17:14:48 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

I'm on SP3 for around a week and most drawings need to be opened by selecting Open go to the folder and select all the Assembly/Sub Assemblies files and the drawing file then clicking on open - if I try to do either ctrl O or go to file open I get this

 

 

So now I need to go file open and select the drawing and assembly files

 

 

Hit open here

 

 

Sometimes this don't work so I need to shut down SW and restart, then it'll work 

 

 

 

This issue has just started with 2017 SP2 so I thought that maybe there is a chance that it'll be fixed in 2017 SP3, really??

 

These are all good files no other errors within the parts or assemblies

 

By: John Stoltzfus  Thu, 18 May 2017 17:25:50 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

16 SP5 was very stable. 17 SP3 not so much.

 

 

Thought I would add 15 got me into some really bad habits it was so stable that I stopped doing saves every few minutes.  that has come back to bite a few times already.

By: David Nelson  Thu, 18 May 2017 17:18:59 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

This is unacceptable.  How can something like this continue?  They must have no idea what's happening or how to fix it.

It's basically crippled the software.

 

I will not update our team until this is definitively fixed.

 

Meanwhile the subscription dollars roll out....

By: Andy Sanders  Thu, 18 May 2017 17:31:07 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Whoa. I'm on SP3, and we haven't had any corruption issues. I can't remember if you are on Sub. I would really contact your VAR if you can.

By: Scott Casale  Thu, 18 May 2017 17:34:16 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Since I know that's how it works, it doesn't take me long to open all the files, they're not big huge assemblies and I really like to have the assembly files open most of the time anyhow, just to assure that the rebuilds and updates are good to go, but somebody with a large mega assembly could have some major issues opening files.  The only thing that I thought of is that I use multiple tab drawings and maybe there is a new option in the Tools/Options that I need to check or un-check so it loads properly.  It appears that it can't gather all the information together that it needs to open the file, like a time out or something like that..

By: John Stoltzfus  Thu, 18 May 2017 17:36:44 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

It's no big deal for me at the moment and creates no hardship here, once I figured it out.  I remember this happening in other releases as well, this isn't my first rodeo.  Like I mentioned, most times I have the drawing and assembly files open anyhow when I'm completing my drawing.. One thing I did forget to mention is when I'm done with a drawing and close it, I can re-open it later without opening all the assembly files, but wait a few hours there is a chance the file won't open...

By: John Stoltzfus  Thu, 18 May 2017 17:41:35 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Unfortunately I don't think John Stoltzfus is on subscription (I think he posted that elsewhere).  But, I think this definitely deserves an SPR!  My assemblies have many more subassemblies and parts than what he has posted.  Luckily we haven't switched over to 2017, yet.  That kind of thing would drive me crazy with a large assembly.

By: Matt Peneguy  Fri, 19 May 2017 16:35:04 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

My VAR had noted the problem but when it appeared to be solved with SP3 we did not pursue it further. If we have any further occurrences I will see that something gets don from this end.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Fri, 19 May 2017 16:41:20 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Well it has again show back up on 2017 SP3. But you want to know something weird.  I got pissed and said to just close not save.  When I opened it back up all my changes were there.  This happened 3 times today on 3 different Assemblies.  Think we may be getting a false corrupt assemble warning.  Which pisses me off even more.

 

Thought I would add, these were not large assemblies like some of you do I would have only lost about 10 minutes completely redoing it.  But with the size of assemblies some of you do I may just have had a heart attack.

By: David Nelson  Tue, 23 May 2017 22:36:25 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

We are currently using SW2016 SP5 & my manager is keen to move to SW2017 now that SP2 has been released. I managed to persuade him to delay till SP3 after I saw this thread but now SP3 has been released & problems (for some) are still persisting, would it be better to skip SW2017 altogether? I'm pretty happy with SW16 & I don’t really see that many benefits on switching to SW17.

 

Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks.

By: Chris Berry  Wed, 24 May 2017 07:41:14 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

I agree totally Dennis, we need to keep the ONE and TWO thread sitting in the top twenty on the home page so that it never fades away. Even if it means shameless bumps..........

 

Dave.

By: Dave Bear  Wed, 24 May 2017 10:53:37 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

With me, I'll loose anything I added to the assembly. But, if I'm editing or open edit a part, those changes remain

By: Todd Bush  Wed, 24 May 2017 11:11:42 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Dave Bear, perhaps you need to modify your profile to OCCUPATION: Annoying People, Shameless Bumper.  But as I write that I wonder if shameless bumper has a sexual connotation in Australia.

By: Dennis Dohogne  Wed, 24 May 2017 11:44:09 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

LMAO, it does Dennis, but I can live with that!

 

Dave.         

By: Dave Bear  Wed, 24 May 2017 12:06:21 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Idea for badge ribbons for SWW18 . . . Shameless Bumper

By: Todd Blacksher  Wed, 24 May 2017 12:30:18 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

LOVE IT!!

 

We might also need Shameful Bumper.

By: Dennis Dohogne  Wed, 24 May 2017 12:33:54 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

David Nelson wrote:

 

Well it has again show back up on 2017 SP3. But you want to know something weird. I got pissed and said to just close not save. When I opened it back up all my changes were there. This happened 3 times today on 3 different Assemblies. Think we may be getting a false corrupt assemble warning. Which pisses me off even more.

 

Thought I would add, these were not large assemblies like some of you do I would have only lost about 10 minutes completely redoing it. But with the size of assemblies some of you do I may just have had a heart attack.

I've had something similar happen occasionally when trying to save a file after making some changes.  I'll get an error message saying the file is corrupted and can't be saved, but when I check it was saved with the changes (although I usually save to a different name just for a little insurance).

By: Glenn Schroeder  Wed, 24 May 2017 12:44:33 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Glenn

usually when we change the name the file does save, there have been some cases where it didn't but not as many.

 

Chris Berry

To be honest, with this glitch I would almost consider waiting until 2018 SP4.0, or at least 2017 SP4. I haven't seen any new features in 2017 that I can't live without and this makes me regret  advocating making the switch at SP1.0

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Wed, 24 May 2017 13:10:46 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

This is happens frequently.  I can go thru the usual work/save/work/save etc. sequence for hours then all of a sudden...CORRUPT AND CANNOT BE SAVED!  Very frustrating.  Rebooting seems to resolve the problem for a while which leads me to believe that "something" is reaching capacity and SWX just gives up the ghost.

 

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By: Jim Paige  Wed, 24 May 2017 14:40:26 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

You ought to start reporting this to your VAR every time.

By: Scott Casale  Wed, 24 May 2017 14:51:47 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Yes please report it to your VAR and see what you can get started. My VAR started working on a SPR but was given the understanding that this was solved with SP3.0 so has not continued. As we have not had problems since going to 3.0 I have nothing to send the VAR to get the ball rolling again. But if someone else does I would eagerly add my vote to the SPR.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Wed, 24 May 2017 15:00:16 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

But then what would I do with the rest of my day?

 

I'm sure that you're right but since I can't replicate the error, its difficult to diagnose.  SWX 2017 has been extremely buggy since we upgraded a few months ago.  Spontaneous crashes, corrupt files, black screen of death, task scheduler not working, etc. have been experienced by all of our users across different platforms and operating systems.  We've had difficulty nailing down (consistent) solutions to these problems and our IT manager has been quite forthright to our VAR about our issues and discontent (that's about as nice as I could put it).  In the meantime, we fight each battle as they occur, find a workaround if possible, and get on with the job.

 

I'm looking forward to testing SP3.0 to see if things have improved.  Has anybody tried SP3.0 yet?

 

Solidworks Premium 2017 x64 Edition SP2.0

Windows 10 Pro

Intel Xeon CPU E5-2667 v4 @3.20GHz

64 GB Ram

By: Jim Paige  Wed, 24 May 2017 15:05:16 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

We're on 2017 SP3.0  no corruption issues here.

 

Although, prior to 2017 SP3.0, we had issues with the routing program and corruption, but have not actually used it since we upgraded.

By: Scott Casale  Wed, 24 May 2017 15:08:14 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Jim Paige,

3.0 appears to have solved our problems but others are not having as good of results as we are.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Wed, 24 May 2017 15:08:55 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Fingers crossed for success!

 

Thanks for all of the input and suggestions.  I appreciate it.

By: Jim Paige  Wed, 24 May 2017 15:19:09 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

It will not let me save to a new name. That is corrupt too.

By: David Nelson  Wed, 24 May 2017 15:36:11 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Have you tried adding a configuration? that sometimes helps for some reason.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Wed, 24 May 2017 15:39:18 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

for me , just changing Configuration helped most of the time in Sp02

By: Andreas Rhomberg  Wed, 24 May 2017 15:40:36 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

There is only one configuration, the ones yesterday were new assemblies just added more parts.

By: David Nelson  Wed, 24 May 2017 16:01:27 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Mine works fine about every other day.

By: David Nelson  Wed, 24 May 2017 16:02:14 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

Just go a new one It now tells me the file is corrupt and will not save.  but the file that is corrupt is a completely different file and does not even have any of the same parts in it.  Not one part is used in both files.  So I closed without saving and reopened it and all the changes I made were there.  File saved this time with no problems.

By: David Nelson  Wed, 24 May 2017 17:29:39 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

One more thing I noticed.  If I open a drawing and need to modify the assembly, I open from the drawing and save to go back to that drawing.  Its this save that causes the corrupt message.  But if I just open and close a drawing no error on save.

By: David Nelson  Wed, 24 May 2017 18:27:06 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

This is the exact issue with corruption we had.

By: Scott Casale  Wed, 24 May 2017 19:33:03 GMT
Re: With SW2017 SP2 we are seeing frequent corrupt files in assemblies

David, are these issues with SW17 SP3?

By: Chris Berry  Thu, 25 May 2017 07:36:22 GMT
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