Does anyone else see this as a problem?

 

Can't see anyone having the time to go through all these and properly evaluate whether they deserve their vote.


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Last comment By: John Stoltzfus   Fri, 07 Dec 2018 11:18:18 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

Solidworks will. This is direct constructive user feedback, invaluable to a technology company.

 

Some ideas will be promoted by individuals as worthwhile.

Some people will skim through, so a simple effective subject is very useful. You can determine applicability from a headline, and read more or not.

Some will read it all.

By: Tom Gagnon  Thu, 06 Dec 2018 21:23:48 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

Richard Gergely wrote:

 

Does anyone else see this as a problem?

 

Can't see anyone having the time to go through all these and properly evaluate whether they deserve their vote.

It is good to go through these periodically so the task is not so daunting at the end.  Bookmark them as you go so you can easily find the ones you want to vote on.

By: Dennis Dohogne  Thu, 06 Dec 2018 22:52:31 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

What I did last year and will again (have already started) this year - is I open John Stoltzfus' Latest excel file.

Then add a few columns.

Then I mark Green for like and red for don't Yellow for N/A (or don't care or Don't know enough about that to make a decision one way or another).

I can then go through the ones that grab my eye first and mark them, then through others ..... until I have covered them all (if I can).

Makes it easier to keep track and know what I voted - if I did.

I have not marked many so far so it will be easy to sort for those and add those to the last one John makes and then look for duplicates for those for easy updating.

If the spreadsheet is updated after voting begins it would only be if something is marked as duplicate or already implemented.

By: Rick McDonald  Fri, 07 Dec 2018 00:34:52 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

Richard Gergely wrote:

 

Does anyone else see this as a problem?

More the number of ideas, better the software would become and eventually will help us (users), so keep adding them. And do not worry on the fact that the ones with low or no voting/comments would be dumped. SW team reviews each and everyone of them

By: Deepak Gupta  Fri, 07 Dec 2018 05:33:09 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

Deepak Gupta wrote:

More the number of ideas, better the software would become

Deepak, I don't want to be negative, but I've been asking for several sheet metal features every year and every one who has done a single sheet metal in SW knows the ideas are necessary. But every year they've been dumped.

I know they never got to top 10, but they were in sheet metal top 10.

 

I don't know how much our company is billed every year for our subscription. We are a Sheet-Metal-Only company and you know that sheet metal in SW has not improved for several years. We upgraded to 2019 and to our grief,what's new file shows only 2 improvement in sheet metal and I don't think one in a thousand designer use them. ( just a wild guess. maybe there a lot who use them)

We just had to version up because if some day they add the necessary changes to sheet metal and we are out of subscription, we have to pay for all the years in between.

By: Habib Ghalamkari  Fri, 07 Dec 2018 06:37:02 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

Habib Ghalamkari wrote:

 

Deepak, I don't want to be negative, but I've been asking for several sheet metal features every year and every one who has done a single sheet metal in SW knows the ideas are necessary. But every year they've been dumped.

I know they never got to top 10, but they were in sheet metal top 10.

Habib, as far as I know no idea has been dumped. And the new enhancements you see are not purely based on the top ten list. You can compare the earlier years top ten list and enhancements done and you can find that not all top ten had been covered. A lot of efforts and team work is put in to finalize the new enhancements. But then there are road blocks (for e.g. MS support due to which SW would be ending support for Win 7) to put all those requests into the tool.

 

I would agree on your thoughts that we all can help along with the SW tech teams to improve further and putting up ideas is one way but also participating to surveys, reporting errors and related things helps. Further SW product definition team is always willing to listen the customers on understanding their needs. Each year they visit lot of customers and discuss with them on the possible enhancements. So I would suggest you get in touch with them directly or via your VAR to see if they can visit you.

 

I'm marking Matthew Lorono as he is one of the member of the product definition team. Though he looks after Drawings and MBD but I'm sure he can see what best can be done to his capacity.

By: Deepak Gupta  Fri, 07 Dec 2018 06:51:29 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

Deepak Gupta wrote:

 

Habib, as far as I know no idea has been dumped. And the new enhancements you see are not purely based on the top ten list. You can compare the earlier years top ten list and enhancements done and you can find that not all top ten had been covered. A lot of efforts and team work is put in to finalize the new enhancements. But then there are road blocks (for e.g. MS support due to which SW would be ending support for Win 7) to put all those requests into the tool.

 

I would agree on your thoughts that we all can help along with the SW tech teams to improve further and putting up ideas is one way but also participating to surveys, reporting errors and related things helps. Further SW product definition team is always willing to listen the customers on understanding their needs. Each year they visit lot of customers and discuss with them on the possible enhancements. So I would suggest you get in touch with them directly or via your VAR to see if they can visit you.

 

I'm marking Matthew Lorono as he is one of the member of the product definition team. Though he looks after Drawings and MBD but I'm sure he can see what best can be done to his capacity.

Thanks, for your input.

I'm leaving for a one-week holiday. Me and my wife will spend several days in Singapore and I don't think I'll be able to access this forum during the holiday.
I'll check back as soon as I'm back to work.

 

 

thanks again

By: Habib Ghalamkari  Fri, 07 Dec 2018 08:13:20 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

I couldn't read them all.

Just the headlines that catch my attention.

People I trust in their experience and their comments.

By: ömür tokman  Fri, 07 Dec 2018 09:36:19 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

Habib Ghalamkari  wrote:

 

Deepak Gupta wrote:

More the number of ideas, better the software would become

Deepak, I don't want to be negative, but I've been asking for several sheet metal features every year and every one who has done a single sheet metal in SW knows the ideas are necessary. But every year they've been dumped.

I know they never got to top 10, but they were in sheet metal top 10.

 

I don't know how much our company is billed every year for our subscription. We are a Sheet-Metal-Only company and you know that sheet metal in SW has not improved for several years. We upgraded to 2019 and to our grief,what's new file shows only 2 improvement in sheet metal and I don't think one in a thousand designer use them. ( just a wild guess. maybe there a lot who use them)

We just had to version up because if some day they add the necessary changes to sheet metal and we are out of subscription, we have to pay for all the years in between.

Don't give up, connect...  There is only one guy I know from SW that you need to contact and that is Frank Ruepp -  He understands sheet metal and will give you an awesome explanation of why or why not something can be changed or what it affects.  Back in 2012 or 13 he helped to push on of my enhancement requests all the way through and that was adding a flange to lofted bends.  Back in the day that was a real pain to create sheet metal chutes without flanges, if I remember correctly we had to add a sketch in the flat pattern and make a model without sheet metal features when we had to show it in the assembly.. 

By: John Stoltzfus  Fri, 07 Dec 2018 10:59:18 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

Habib Ghalamkari wrote:

 

Deepak Gupta wrote:

More the number of ideas, better the software would become

Deepak, I don't want to be negative, but I've been asking for several sheet metal features every year and every one who has done a single sheet metal in SW knows the ideas are necessary. But every year they've been dumped.

I know they never got to top 10, but they were in sheet metal top 10.

 

I don't know how much our company is billed every year for our subscription. We are a Sheet-Metal-Only company and you know that sheet metal in SW has not improved for several years. We upgraded to 2019 and to our grief,what's new file shows only 2 improvement in sheet metal and I don't think one in a thousand designer use them. ( just a wild guess. maybe there a lot who use them)

We just had to version up because if some day they add the necessary changes to sheet metal and we are out of subscription, we have to pay for all the years in between.

Habib,

As Deepak says, the ideas that don't make it into the top ten are not dumped.  ALL ideas are considered as enhancement requests.  SWX just wanted to add some excitement and generate more user input by making a sort of contest for which ideas would garner the most votes.  Read the blog post:  SOLIDWORKS World 2019 Top Ten List: Now Open For Idea Submission

 

If you really want to do the most to get your ideas noticed then a) submit them as a formal enhancement request, b) add them to the top ten list (and do this every year until they are implemented), c) include the SPR you get from a) in your b).  This will allow others to go to the SPR and attach themselves to it.  This does two things: they become another vote for the SPR which raises its attention at SWX, and they will be notified by e-mail when it is implemented.

 

It is in our best interest to tell SWX what will make the software better for us.  The formal Enhancement Request and the annual top ten list are two good ways to do this.  I think these things can be improved dramatically.  If you agree then bookmark this idea for voting on it next week:  FIX Top Ten List, Enhancement Request, and Knowledge Base Systems

By: Dennis Dohogne  Fri, 07 Dec 2018 13:35:52 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

I couldn't read them all.

Just the headlines that catch my attention.

I saw a movie earlier this year that had an interesting idea on how to resolve the issue of too many things and limited resources.  If there aren't enough time resources to explore all of the ideas, would randomly deleting half the ideas help, a la Thanos?

 

Just kidding.

 

I would recommend exploring the areas that are most relevant to you, of course.  Maybe spread out your march thru the list of ideas over a couple of weeks.  There are different views you can use to peruse the display of ideas from oldest to newest, most recently changed, etc.  The only one I would avoid is highest score, since it may bias your own impression of the ideas (one way or the other).

 

Have fun with it!

By: Matthew Lorono  Fri, 07 Dec 2018 18:29:45 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

Matthew Lorono - wrote:

 

If there aren't enough time resources to explore all of the ideas, would randomly deleting half the ideas help, a la Thanos?

The only one I would avoid is highest score, since it may bias your own impression of the ideas (one way or the other).

 

Have fun with it!

I'd delete them all but (6) six lol - 

 

The only one I would avoid is highest score, since it may bias your own impression of the ideas (one way or the other).

 

Are you saying that if one of mine become number one on the list, you would avoid it...

 

And... you say that the Forum has a better sort the Excel..

 

Have fun - and have a great weekend

 

Cheers

By: John Stoltzfus  Fri, 07 Dec 2018 18:45:30 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

John, to level the playing field at the start, I may have to add two votes to every other idea so that all ideas start with 2 votes.  Isn't weird we cannot delete votes?  It is weird, right?  Anyway, or we can take the approach of come-what-may, trusting the system will work out the hiccup.

By: Matthew Lorono  Fri, 07 Dec 2018 19:08:10 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

LOL - if I got two more votes then the next guy, do a FL recount

By: John Stoltzfus  Fri, 07 Dec 2018 19:27:25 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

what happened to the Voting on the enhancement request as to which ones would be given a better look at to see about implementing?

By: David Matula  Fri, 07 Dec 2018 22:58:57 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

Good views all round from everyone.

Fully agree in principle as much feedback as possible helps.

Guess I will have to get the coffee going on the day I decide to go through all the ideas.

By: Richard Gergely  Sat, 08 Dec 2018 02:10:47 GMT
Re: 621 ideas for the top ten so far

Richard Gergely  wrote:

 

Does anyone else see this as a problem?

 

Can't see anyone having the time to go through all these and properly evaluate whether they deserve their vote.

I didn't get it done everyday, but I tried to create a new excel spreadsheet with all the ideas in one document, where it's easy to track and to sort, see the one attached, which I did yesterday.  I won't be updating it over the weekend, but hopefully Monday if I have time and my last one will be posted on 12/13/2018 which is when voting starts.  I would suggest going through the list and marking them just like Rick McDonald mentioned above, that way it's more of a true vote and your not voting on the top ones on the forum.  All you need to do is download the spreadsheet and double click on the title and it should open in your web browser.

 

This year I would like to separate the ideas in categories so it's easier to find topics that are meaningful to people.  Example, I don't ever do any simulation so I won't even look at them unless someone specifically sends me a message explaining why I should vote etc....

 

I do post the updated Excel Spreadsheets here The "Kitty Dump"  - **** Top Ten List - VOTE NOW VOTE NOW also vote on SW R&D Allocations **** - Watercooler - Trash it Here - Food For Thought - Talk About Whatever Here ;)

By: John Stoltzfus  Fri, 07 Dec 2018 11:18:18 GMT
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