There is a white color only appearance activated somewhere that affects most all parts we have.  I can add material color at part level but it is not flowing through at assembly.  Did someone set up a default and if so, how do I remove it?

 

Message was edited by: Kathy Spaw I added the part template and tried to delete the appearance but it won't go!  I haven't seen anything so tenacious.  The assembly template did not have any appearances so the part template is the culprit.


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Last comment By: Kathy Spaw   Wed, 12 Dec 2018 00:09:28 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Further investigation..................

 

I've found that if I just re-apply your material, things correct themselves.........

Kathy1.JPG

Kathy2.JPG

 

If this is happening on every new part you create, I would definitely clean your part template.

 

Dave.

By: Dave Bear  Thu, 29 Nov 2018 03:01:55 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Hi Kathy,

 

As Dave suggested above: sounds like your assembly template has a pre-defined appearance on it (in your case, white). Open your assembly template (templates should have these extensions: .asmdot - for assemblies and .prtdot - for parts) from inside SolidWorks (if you double click on the file in Windows file explorer it will not recognize the file type and will ask to select the program to open it with). Locate the appearance (see attached image), click on it and delete it. Save the file and close it. From now on, your assembly templates should not be white.

Do the same with your part template if you wish to remove the pre-defined appearance.

 

Hope it helps

 

F

Appearance.JPG

By: Fernando Castellanos  Thu, 29 Nov 2018 03:08:38 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Hi Kathy, i opened your assembly but i don't see anything funny with it.  Did you do a Pack n Go and include the check box for "Include Custom decals, appearances...." ? 

 

Here is a somewhat general/generic response that might help.

 

If an appearance is applied at the top level of the assembly it will override all others by default.  You can see the first cotter pin has a blue appearance applied but is green.

Assembly Appearances 1.png

If the top level of the assembly doesn't have an appearances then the one in the upper left(assembly applied appearance) will drive the look of the part. 

Assembly Appearances 2.png

 

If you apply an appearance at the part level it will show up in the bottom right corner of that icon in the display pane.

Assembly Appearances 3.png

 

 

Just like appearances in a part there is an order to what overrides what.  In a part you can apply an appearance at the part, body, feature or face level.  The face will override the feature, feature overrides the body and body overrides the part.

Assembly Appearances 4.png

 

If you can take some screen shots of what you are seeing or try a pack n go with the appearances option to make sure it all comes through i will try to expand on that answer.

By: Matt Pérez  Thu, 29 Nov 2018 02:16:15 GMT
How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

There is a white color only appearance activated somewhere that affects most all parts we have.  I can add material color at part level but it is not flowing through at assembly.  Did someone set up a default and if so, how do I remove it?

 

Message was edited by: Kathy Spaw I added the part template and tried to delete the appearance but it won't go!  I haven't seen anything so tenacious.  The assembly template did not have any appearances so the part template is the culprit.

By: Kathy Spaw  Wed, 28 Nov 2018 22:21:56 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Check original post, I added the part template.  That color just won't let go!

By: Kathy Spaw  Thu, 29 Nov 2018 22:33:50 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

I tried to do as you suggested but the template wouldn't let go of the color.  I attached a copy of it to the original post.

By: Kathy Spaw  Thu, 29 Nov 2018 22:34:36 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Hi Kathy,

 

I'm pretty sure I've fixed it for you.........

The new template is attached and renamed as "NEW Product Part"

 

Let me know how it works out for you...............

 

Dave.

By: Dave Bear  Fri, 30 Nov 2018 00:28:37 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

I'll have a better look at your files on Monday and get back to you

By: Fernando Castellanos  Fri, 30 Nov 2018 21:25:43 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Kathy, this is very odd behavior.  There was nothing i saw in your part template that would indicate anything funny.  The part does have the blueish appearance as shown in Dave's post.  However if i change the background, not the appearance, to Plain white the part appearance changes.  If i go back to any other such as 3 point faded, the part stays the color we would expect to see.

 

When i create a part with your part template, the new body has that bluish color to it.  When i change backgrounds it goes away.

 

Playing around with it more there seems to be something funny tied to the 3 point faded scene.  I opened your template, set the scene to "Plain White" and saved another version and it does not seem to exhibit the same behavior.  Off hand i don't know of a way to fix the ones you have already made besides changing the scene.

 

Here are some screen shots when opening the pin portion of your assembly.

Assembly Appearances 5.png

Change the scene from 3 point faded to white(or any other seems to do the trick also)

Assembly Appearances 6.png

Assembly Appearances 7.png

 

Now change it back to 3 point faded

Assembly Appearances 8.png

 

Just so its easier.  Here are the two images together.  The larger is how the file opens. the smaller is the same 3 point faded scene but after i switch back and forth between another scene.

Assembly Appearances 9.png

 

Sorry i don't have an answer as to why its happening.  I will dig into it a bit more.  Just wanted to share what i found.

By: Matt Pérez  Sat, 01 Dec 2018 03:19:19 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

As I stated earlier, I found the issue and I've fixed it. The new template is attached above.

 

Dave.

By: Dave Bear  Sat, 01 Dec 2018 11:50:03 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Are you applying color to each configurations? I'm suspecting that it may be related to display state.

By: Deepak Gupta  Sat, 01 Dec 2018 13:38:16 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Dave, i checked your attachment and it was a new part template.  That doesn't answer the question as to why hers is messed up though.  At least that is the one that is driving me a bit batty I don't know why the scene would show the part as one state then another after switching back and forth.  I feel like the original 3 point faded on her end was edited and saved over maybe?  Somehow switching back and forth lets it go to the default install 3 point faded? 

 

Can you confirm on your end, with the original that simply switching scenes has the same affect as reapplication of the appearance? 

 

We may never know exactly why it happened but it sure is a good exercise trying to find out .

By: Matt Pérez  Sat, 01 Dec 2018 18:45:20 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Hi Matt,

 

The issue was all the directional lighting was out of whack.................

 

Dave.

By: Dave Bear  Sun, 02 Dec 2018 01:05:05 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

I was going to suggest looking at that it always makes all parts look "white"

By: Fernando Castellanos  Sun, 02 Dec 2018 18:47:47 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

The background isn't the problem.  Every time I change the material or directly remove and add an appearance, like polished steel, the part, at some level shows the "plain color white".  Yes, a white part on a white background is hard to see but the background behavior is working as expected.  It's the "plain color white", that won't be removed, that is causing the grief.

By: Kathy Spaw  Thu, 06 Dec 2018 14:19:41 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

I had such hopes but when I opened your template in my system, it showed as white. I am at a loss.

By: Kathy Spaw  Thu, 06 Dec 2018 14:26:37 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Kathy, when open up Daves template it has the default appearance and 3 point faded scene.  What are you expecting the appearance to be?  I took Daves template and made the appearance high gloss blue plastic.

 

When i was talking about the scene setup i know the scene doesn't seem like the issue, but my comment was that changing the scene and changing it right back displayed the model appearance differently.  That is what led me to question your .p2s file for the 3 point faded.  That file was sent along with your template and it makes the part look different than my default .p2s 3 point faded file.

By: Matt Pérez  Thu, 06 Dec 2018 14:37:09 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Kathy, did you even try to create a basic model with the new template and see how it displayed?

 

I tested it before I posted it here for you and it worked fine.

 

Dave.

By: Dave Bear  Thu, 06 Dec 2018 22:40:33 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Try this file and let me know if it works

By: Fernando Castellanos  Thu, 06 Dec 2018 22:49:54 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Sorry to take so long to get back to you.  Life happened.

 

Your file "New Product Part"  is working for me.  I even applied the 3-point studio room background and everything works well.  What did you do?  Is it possible to change existing model appearance with your magic?  Thank you!

By: Kathy Spaw  Tue, 11 Dec 2018 23:31:23 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Your's worked for me as well as David Bear's.

 

I, finally, went into my template and removed all appearance then added matte steel.  It seems to stick and hold the appearance into an assembly.  I just wish I could fix the appearance of the existing parts.

 

Thanks.

By: Kathy Spaw  Tue, 11 Dec 2018 23:56:51 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Kathy Spaw wrote:

 

Sorry to take so long to get back to you. Life happened.

 

Your file "New Product Part" is working for me. I even applied the 3-point studio room background and everything works well. What did you do? Is it possible to change existing model appearance with your magic? Thank you!

 

Um, do you mean take existing parts that were created with the faulty template and place them into the new template so that the appearance is corrected?

 

Dave.

By: Dave Bear  Wed, 12 Dec 2018 00:00:08 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

I'll keep an eye on it but currently, just the default display state 1 shows.

By: Kathy Spaw  Wed, 12 Dec 2018 00:06:44 GMT
Re: How do I remove all appearance of color only that may be set up as default?

Thank you everyone!

 

As far as the background goes, I long for the Millennium color that Inventor has. 

By: Kathy Spaw  Wed, 12 Dec 2018 00:09:28 GMT
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