Ok,

this has happened before and the cause was that we had envelopes in use. I have looked and can not find any envelopes in this assembly. The front end and a couple of other sub-assemblies insist on showing as dashed lines in the drawing. I have tried everything I can think of but can not get them to show solid for longer than 60 seconds. I have gone to the tree, selected the subs and changed the component line font to solid for all lines, the lines look good when the model regenerates, and then in about 60 seconds, poof, back to dashed. I have selected Show Envelopes in view properties, no change. I have set all views to high quality, no change. I have looked at the system options and can't find anything there either.

I have to add that this is a bad model somewhere and it lags terribly for anything I attempt to do with it. I thought it was because of errors so i have gone through each sub and cleaned up all errors i can find, but there is something that someone before me did that definitely isn't to Hoyle because it is very slow. Someday given time I will have to rebuild it from the ground up but not today.

At this point the only thing I have found that works is to select each line and set the individual display to solid.

Does anyone have any ideas?

 

I should add that this model has quite a bit of information in it so I probably shouldn't share it.

 

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Last comment By: Jim Steinmeyer   Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:13:42 GMT
Re: part of drawing view shows as hidden lines--can't change.

As an experiment, you could try this:

 

1. Pack & Go to a temporary folder. close out all files and re-open in the new folder

2. Create a copy of one of the offending parts  (Save As copy...). Lets call it Bracket-1_copy.

3. In the assembly, replace the original of that part with Bracket-1_copy. It should replace pretty cleanly since all the reference elements are identical.

4. Check the Drawing to see if the line properties for Bracket-1 have changed.

 

I recently tried something like this when I had trouble getting my "component Line Font" to display correctly in a drawing, and it was the ONLY thing that worked after trying a lot of other stuff.

By: Marshall Wilson  Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:58:36 GMT
Re: part of drawing view shows as hidden lines--can't change.

Marshall

That might be a good try at getting it to work, but I would like to figure out the why. In the mean time I am almost finished selecting the offending lines and changing their font individually. Interestingly enough there are even a few lines I can't get solid even if their individual line font is set to solid. Also I have found that if I am zoomed in enough that the view fills the screen and I pan side to side the lines will go solid for about 15 seconds and then back to dashed. I am looking forward to having time to totally remodel this bugger as I think that is what it will take to get it to function properly. Probably happen in about 10 years.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Tue, 13 Feb 2018 22:41:35 GMT
Re: part of drawing view shows as hidden lines--can't change.

Good question Jim - I wish I knew.

 

My theory in trying it in the first place was that somehow the file's display info got corrupted or something. Even with Pack-n-Go to another folder the problems persisted with being able to change line font on parts. Only with the copy-n-replace strategy did I get somewhere.

As you can see it would have been hard for me to change all the lines on the Fireplace Mantel!

By: Marshall Wilson  Tue, 13 Feb 2018 22:48:31 GMT
Re: part of drawing view shows as hidden lines--can't change.

It sure would have. Glad you were able to get something to work.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Tue, 13 Feb 2018 22:56:15 GMT
Re: part of drawing view shows as hidden lines--can't change.

Some questions:

(I apologize if these are answered somewhere already).

 

1) Have you tried to uncheck "Show Envelope"?

 

Envelope components by default come into a drawing as dotted lines.

 

(I had other questions, but then I realized that they were impossible, so I deleted them  )

 

Another edit:

 

So, yeah, you tried that already.  LOL  *sigh*

By: Dan Pihlaja  Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:41:46 GMT
Re: part of drawing view shows as hidden lines--can't change.

Yes, that was the first thing I tried as I had that problem about a year ago. I also checked and don't find and envelopes in the assembly, certainly not for the parts giving the problems. I have tried editing the component font in the tree as Glenn had suggested as a solution in a earlier post and that appeared to work for about 20 seconds and then that didn't work either.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:58:20 GMT
Re: part of drawing view shows as hidden lines--can't change.

Silly suggestion... have you tried exit SolidWorks and start it again?

Anyway I experienced troubles with line fonts, too, in complex assemblies. I couldn't get on, once, with a big one. A few days later I opened back the drawing and magically it was right!! I still don't know why....

By: Sergio Monti  Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:13:38 GMT
Re: part of drawing view shows as hidden lines--can't change.

Ok, here is another thing to try:

Is the view set to lightweight?

 

 

If so, try to resolve it.

 

By: Dan Pihlaja  Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:22:30 GMT
Re: part of drawing view shows as hidden lines--can't change.

I wasn't even aware that was possible. But no nothing is light weight.

Looking back, the last time I had this issue it was with the same large subassembly used in another instance. i really think a total remodel is long past due.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:42:24 GMT
Re: part of drawing view shows as hidden lines--can't change.

You could try the solution from Elmar here: Can't see planes in sub assembly

By: Dan Pihlaja  Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:47:04 GMT
Re: part of drawing view shows as hidden lines--can't change.

Unfortunately here is the "subassembly" basically the top level of a feeder with virtually everything on it but we can use it for adding custom orders to it. I think this would be a good place to start with John's SSP so that many of the subassemblies could be placed without need for all of the reference parts that add to the size.

 

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By: Jim Steinmeyer  Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:13:42 GMT
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