Please watch this video, for a complete explanation of what is expected in this challenge:

https://youtu.be/GJ0opJk1gVA

 

Hello SOLIDWORKS Power-Users and welcome to the 12th WPUC!

 

Other than having fun solving riddles, the goal of this week's WPUC is the same as always: facilitate through brainstorming the finding of new techniques and methods, for the benefit of the SOLIDWORKS Community.

 

Hopefully we will:

  1. Identify areas where SOLIDWORKS' functionality needs enhancements
  2. Design workarounds to overcome the current lack of functionality
  3. Submit new ERs or promote existing ERs that are relevant to this WPUC topic.

This week the topic is editing imported geometry. You can use any techniques you want, using surfacing or solid tools.

 

The Challenge Process and Rules:

 

1. Download the attached Parasolid file

2. Open it in SOLIDWORKS

3. Heal any topological errors using Import Diagnostics.

4. Move the yellow face 1 mm in a direction normal to the flats of the cut-out.

5. Preserve any existing draft angles. Some faces could be translated and others stretched along their natural untrimmed fabric.

6. Try to preserve the current topology

7. It is not mandatory, but do your best to preserve the face IDs in this process.

8. If you need to delete faces (e.g. rounds) in order to move other faces, you need to re-create them with the same geometry (e.g. same radius).

9. Upload the finished part to this thread. All features have to accessible in the feature tree.

10. You are allowed to use 3DExperience products, as long as the 3DExperience features are part of the SOLIDWORKS feature tree, and could be launched for editing from inside SOLIDWORKS Desktop product.

 

Prizes:

 

  1. Be the first to submit a valid solution and you will win 10,000 points.
  2. If you are the winner of the 10,000 points prize, add comments in the FeatureManager tree to all features used, and you will be awarded an extra 5,000 pointsprize. The comments have to be meaningful and helpful for the reviewer to understand your process.
  3. If you are not the first to provide a valid solution, you could still win points. If your solution is valid and significantly different you will win 1,000 points. Just upload your file to this thread.
  4. If you are a winner of a 1,000 points award, you can double it by adding comments in the FeatureManager tree to all features used. The comments have to be meaningful and helpful for the reviewer to understand your process.
  5. The first valid solution with the smallest number of features, wins 5,000 points.
  6. If you are a winner of a 5,000 points award, you can double it by adding comments in the FeatureManager tree to all features used. The comments have to be meaningful and helpful for the reviewer to understand your process.
  7. All winners will receive at the end of the year the SOLIDWORKS Power-User Diploma.

 

Deadline: Friday, November 3rd 2017, 5pm ET


Categories: Modeling and Assemblies, Surfacing

Comments
Last comment By: Çağın Gergin   Thu, 16 Nov 2017 11:32:10 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Ryan Navarro wrote:

 

Looks like a fun one!

I am afraid, I simplified the original part too much, so now this challenge is too easy.

 

Well, easy points for the contestants...

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 27 Oct 2017 21:09:42 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

I hope it's right ! It was fun, lot's of trial and error. Also I was not sure if I understand Face ID correctly or not, I hope they are preserved.

Vahid

By: Vahid Mostofi  Sat, 28 Oct 2017 02:03:28 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Alin, it might be good idea to upload the finished part parasolid also which would help user to compare their finished model with that. This way they can quickly check if their model is in line with the finished one.

By: Deepak Gupta  Sat, 28 Oct 2017 06:48:52 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Hi Alin.. Here is my submission. Attached two methods for the same result.

By: Redecos Technologies  Sat, 28 Oct 2017 07:11:09 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Hello Deepak.. Looks simple.. but have you checked after the translation, the way you did the geometry looks different on some area also the base region will get scaled by ~0.25mm1.JPG

By: Redecos Technologies  Sat, 28 Oct 2017 07:14:11 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

This one looked straightaway using delete face to remove the fillets. Then move the faces upwards by 1mm and finally re-add the fillets.

 

By: Deepak Gupta  Sat, 28 Oct 2017 06:47:16 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Thanks, have corrected the file. I had forgot to select the corresponding faces.

 

But even with the earlier file should be OK, per the rules # 6 and 7

By: Deepak Gupta  Sat, 28 Oct 2017 07:38:35 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

I added another two awards for the first valid solution with the smallest number of features in the tree.

By: Alin Vargatu  Sat, 28 Oct 2017 17:12:30 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Here is mine. Comments are in the.part.

 

WPUC12.jpg

By: Ingvar Magnusson  Sat, 28 Oct 2017 12:08:13 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

PFA2.JPG

By: Redecos Technologies  Sun, 29 Oct 2017 04:52:14 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Here is another with one feature less. Not sure why it was showing error earlier.

 

By: Deepak Gupta  Sun, 29 Oct 2017 08:02:06 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Alin,

 

I took this challenge literally

 

By: Kevin Pymm  Mon, 30 Oct 2017 08:56:32 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

I've been trying to get the delete face feature to work, but keep getting the dreaded geometry condition error.  I've tried importing several times, but still no joy.  also i repaired a faulty face immediately after import.

 

Deepak Gupta has shown me that that this can be done, but for some reason my imported file doesn't work. i'm using SW2015 SP5 as well for reference.

 

2017-10-30 22_47_24-SOLIDWORKS Professional 2015 x64 Edition - [WPUC12-move yellow faces 1 mm upward.png

By: Duncan Gillis  Mon, 30 Oct 2017 12:38:21 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Interesting. if you don't repair the faulty surface, it works on a freshly imported file.

By: Duncan Gillis  Mon, 30 Oct 2017 12:40:01 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Same result on SW2018. After healing bad surface, delete with patch is failing.

By: Krzysztof W.  Mon, 30 Oct 2017 13:50:09 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Interesting . . . Alin said to use minimum features  . . . and he also told us to use import diagnostics.

 

First time I used import diagnostics, but then like Duncan, I could not delete the 1.5 mm fillet faces, so could not match what Deepak did. So I just deleted the 1 mm fillet faces on the front only. But the side benefit was that I could select all faces (except top, bottom and that middle one) to move up 1 mm. Then add back that 1 mm fillet. So just 3 features. (SW2018)

 

I then did another import (without diagnosis) and was able to delete the 1.5 mm fillet faces. But then I had to add a second fillet feature for a total of 4.

Question: Are we participating in an episode of "Alin Knows Best"?

Father Knows Best (TV Series 1954–1960) - IMDb

By: Bill Toft  Mon, 30 Oct 2017 14:57:03 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Dear Alin, One more submission from me for the less feature challenge.. BTW is there any rule for the number of submission .

Seems like less number of participants though!!

 

3.JPG

By: Redecos Technologies  Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:01:12 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Ingvar/Bill, I just looked at files from both you and see that additional faces (check attach video, in red circle for both and green circle for Bill) moves with the move face command. Not sure if that is desired but otherwise good use of move face command.

By: Deepak Gupta  Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:22:26 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Here is another one with one more less feature. I used feature recognition to remove the fillets

 

By: Deepak Gupta  Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:35:26 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Hello Deepak.. Have you noticed that additional expansion on the BASE after the move face? If that is okay.. Go for multi radius option on fillet to save one fillet feature...

 

4.JPG

By: Redecos Technologies  Mon, 30 Oct 2017 16:05:43 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Yes aware of that and trying to find a fix.

By: Deepak Gupta  Mon, 30 Oct 2017 16:26:44 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Here is my submission, quite a few features though. I wasn't able to delete the fillets in one feature since I did the Import Diagnostics, and it took some thinking to figure out which order to delete them in.

 

Attached in 2017 format. No time for comments on this one but used folders and feature names. I also kept separate features for each fillet just so I could keep track of the sizes.

 

I will have to check out other's solutions as my process was pretty cumbersome, but I'm fairly confident in the resulting geometry.

 

rn-import.PNGverified-overlay.PNG

By: Ryan Navarro  Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:59:50 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Here is my attempt. There was a surface or 2 that wasn't cooperating on the Delete Face function. I noted these in the comment section. If they would of been able to work, this could be done adding only 3 features to the tree.

By: Dave Dinius  Mon, 30 Oct 2017 18:10:16 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Friends maybe I could have gone a long way.

but I wanted to create smooth surfaces. I have not written explanations, but you will already understand when you examine the file.

 

Ekran Alıntıs1ı.PNGEkran Alıntısı.PNG

By: cagin gergin  Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:34:58 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Hello.

Here is my quick submission.

What i have done:

1. Check and repair imported body.

2. Used feature recognition in interactive mode to recognize fillets. (only fillets necessary to be remove to move faces )

3. Used move face command before fillets.

SW2018 model attached.

By: Krzysztof W.  Tue, 31 Oct 2017 07:14:45 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

My submission to # 3-4.

Trying to think upside down. Maybe not the easiest and not few features. But perhaps different enough. Anyway sometimes a weird approach can produce results.

By: Thomas Voetmann  Tue, 31 Oct 2017 11:33:30 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Vahid Mostofi wrote:

 

I hope it's right ! It was fun, lot's of trial and error. Also I was not sure if I understand Face ID correctly or not, I hope they are preserved.

Vahid

So close, Vahid. Not a biggie, but you missed the size of this fillet:

 

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:10:12 GMT
The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Please watch this video, for a complete explanation of what is expected in this challenge:

https://youtu.be/GJ0opJk1gVA

 

Hello SOLIDWORKS Power-Users and welcome to the 12th WPUC!

 

Other than having fun solving riddles, the goal of this week's WPUC is the same as always: facilitate through brainstorming the finding of new techniques and methods, for the benefit of the SOLIDWORKS Community.

 

Hopefully we will:

  1. Identify areas where SOLIDWORKS' functionality needs enhancements
  2. Design workarounds to overcome the current lack of functionality
  3. Submit new ERs or promote existing ERs that are relevant to this WPUC topic.

This week the topic is editing imported geometry. You can use any techniques you want, using surfacing or solid tools.

 

The Challenge Process and Rules:

 

1. Download the attached Parasolid file

2. Open it in SOLIDWORKS

3. Heal any topological errors using Import Diagnostics.

4. Move the yellow face 1 mm in a direction normal to the flats of the cut-out.

5. Preserve any existing draft angles. Some faces could be translated and others stretched along their natural untrimmed fabric.

6. Try to preserve the current topology

7. It is not mandatory, but do your best to preserve the face IDs in this process.

8. If you need to delete faces (e.g. rounds) in order to move other faces, you need to re-create them with the same geometry (e.g. same radius).

9. Upload the finished part to this thread. All features have to accessible in the feature tree.

10. You are allowed to use 3DExperience products, as long as the 3DExperience features are part of the SOLIDWORKS feature tree, and could be launched for editing from inside SOLIDWORKS Desktop product.

 

Prizes:

 

  1. Be the first to submit a valid solution and you will win 10,000 points.
  2. If you are the winner of the 10,000 points prize, add comments in the FeatureManager tree to all features used, and you will be awarded an extra 5,000 pointsprize. The comments have to be meaningful and helpful for the reviewer to understand your process.
  3. If you are not the first to provide a valid solution, you could still win points. If your solution is valid and significantly different you will win 1,000 points. Just upload your file to this thread.
  4. If you are a winner of a 1,000 points award, you can double it by adding comments in the FeatureManager tree to all features used. The comments have to be meaningful and helpful for the reviewer to understand your process.
  5. The first valid solution with the smallest number of features, wins 5,000 points.
  6. If you are a winner of a 5,000 points award, you can double it by adding comments in the FeatureManager tree to all features used. The comments have to be meaningful and helpful for the reviewer to understand your process.
  7. All winners will receive at the end of the year the SOLIDWORKS Power-User Diploma.

 

Deadline: Friday, November 3rd 2017, 5pm ET

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 27 Oct 2017 20:20:20 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Whaaat, how did I miss that! I think I spent a lot of time figuring out the chord width fillet and didn't pay attention to that simple fillet, Anyways thanks for the challenges Alin!

By: Vahid Mostofi  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:53:51 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Ingvar Magnusson wrote:

 

Here is mine. Comments are in the.part.

 

WPUC12.jpg

Ingvar, I see your solution as very effective for a certain type of revisions. Spectacular result!

 

Unfortunately, for this specific challenge, the footprint of part is changed.

 

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 16:48:17 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Redecos Technologies wrote:

 

PFA2.JPG

Too bad you did not use the Chord Width Fillet on this one.

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 16:51:26 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Redecos Technologies wrote:

 

Hi Alin.. Here is my submission. Attached two methods for the same result.

Thanks Redecos. Interesting technique of using the Import Diagnostics for deleting faces.

I really like the fact that you spotted the Chord Width Fillet!!!

Great job!

 

I noticed that you, like Deepak missed the Import Diagnostic step. I know that you deleted the face with the error in the process, and thus solved the topological error.

If no one else would have observed all rules, you would have won the big prize for sure.

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:47:31 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Great solution, Deepak. You did not run Import Diagnostic first, but you deleted the offending face in the process.

 

Let's see if anyone ran the Import Diagnostics in this challenge.

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:15:53 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Deepak Gupta wrote:

 

Here is another with one feature less. Not sure why it was showing error earlier.

 

Thanks Deepak. Will certainly consider it if no one else used Import Diagnostics. I know that is a technicality, and could be blamed on me 100%.

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 17:00:01 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Haha, good one.

 

It just contravenes to Rule 6 - you did not preserve the existing topology.

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 18:15:00 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Bill Toft wrote:

 

Interesting . . . Alin said to use minimum features . . . and he also told us to use import diagnostics.

 

First time I used import diagnostics, but then like Duncan, I could not delete the 1.5 mm fillet faces, so could not match what Deepak did. So I just deleted the 1 mm fillet faces on the front only. But the side benefit was that I could select all faces (except top, bottom and that middle one) to move up 1 mm. Then add back that 1 mm fillet. So just 3 features. (SW2018)

 

I then did another import (without diagnosis) and was able to delete the 1.5 mm fillet faces. But then I had to add a second fillet feature for a total of 4.

Question: Are we participating in an episode of "Alin Knows Best"?

Father Knows Best (TV Series 1954–1960) - IMDb

Nice solutions, Bill, very similar to Ingvar's.

 

The only problem I can see, with a global Move Face feature, you will change the footprint of this part:

 

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 18:20:13 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Redecos Technologies wrote:

 

Dear Alin, One more submission from me for the less feature challenge.. BTW is there any rule for the number of submission .

Seems like less number of participants though!!

 

3.JPG

Again, I liked the fact that you observed all rules, including the creative use of Import Diagnostics. Kudos for that!

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 18:23:21 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

cagin gergin wrote:

 

Friends maybe I could have gone a long way.

but I wanted to create smooth surfaces. I have not written explanations, but you will already understand when you examine the file.

 

Ekran Alıntıs1ı.PNGEkran Alıntısı.PNG

Wow, fantastic. It was a pleasure replaying the features and seeing how your mind worked here.

You got one fillet wrong, but thanks a lot for the solution!

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 18:28:53 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Deepak Gupta wrote:

 

Here is another one with one more less feature. I used feature recognition to remove the fillets

 

Beautiful, Deepak. The footprint changes, though.

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 18:31:12 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Ryan Navarro wrote:

 

Here is my submission, quite a few features though. I wasn't able to delete the fillets in one feature since I did the Import Diagnostics, and it took some thinking to figure out which order to delete them in.

 

Attached in 2017 format. No time for comments on this one but used folders and feature names. I also kept separate features for each fillet just so I could keep track of the sizes.

 

I will have to check out other's solutions as my process was pretty cumbersome, but I'm fairly confident in the resulting geometry.

 

rn-import.PNGverified-overlay.PNG

So far (other than the fact that the rear fillet was 1 mm and not 0.05") this is the closest result to the original geometry and topology. Fantastic work, Ryan!

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 18:38:23 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Dave Dinius wrote:

 

Here is my attempt. There was a surface or 2 that wasn't cooperating on the Delete Face function. I noted these in the comment section. If they would of been able to work, this could be done adding only 3 features to the tree.

 

Very interesting approach. The only loser of the Move Face operation is the tangency between these 2 faces:

 

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 18:50:46 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Krzysztof W. wrote:

 

Hello.

Here is my quick submission.

What i have done:

1. Check and repair imported body.

2. Used feature recognition in interactive mode to recognize fillets. (only fillets necessary to be remove to move faces )

3. Used move face command before fillets.

SW2018 model attached.

Very ingenious approach, Krzyzstof. Thanks for commenting your feature tree.

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 18:55:20 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Thomas Voetmann wrote:

 

My submission to # 3-4.

Trying to think upside down. Maybe not the easiest and not few features. But perhaps different enough. Anyway sometimes a weird approach can produce results.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

 

After spending only 5 minutes with Thomas' model, I am tempted to declare that:

We have a genius among us!

 

I am trying to understand why moving the other faces down solved all the problems that moving the original faces up created.

 

I would appreciate your help in figuring this out. Please open Thomas' model and examine it.

 

This is important, because I am inclined to recognize Tom as a SOLIDWORKS DEMIGOD. Such a title cannot be bestowed lightly, so we need to do appropriate due diligence.

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:21:25 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Alin, I liked Thomas's approach (very out of box) but when I compared his model, there are a topology changes. But I agree with you that he is one of the DEMIGOD

By: Deepak Gupta  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:32:04 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

I have to apologize, but judging this challenge is much more difficult than what I imagined it would be.

 

For starters, none of the submissions observed all the rules 100%. In one case, Redecos Technologies submitted multiple solutions, which mixed together would have provided the perfect solution (I am talking about the Chord Length Fillet being part of one solution and missing from the "closest to perfect" ones).

 

I was also surprised to see how many of us made a basic mistake, as simple as typing the wrong value in the Fillet Property Manager: Vahid, Ryan, Thomas, Cagin are just a few examples. Should we just consider these occurrences mistyping and ignore them?

 

I want to make sure no one is upset by awarding prizes to submissions who contravene to some rules. Will focus on the effectiveness and originality of the solutions as the main criteria.

 

Please reply to this before Monday, the 13th of Nevember, 9:00 am ET, if you disagree with this. If you do, tell me why, and propose a different criterion for choosing the winners.

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:37:12 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Deepak Gupta wrote:

 

Alin, I liked Thomas's approach (very out of box) but when I compared his model, there are a topology changes. But I agree with you that he is one of the DEMIGOD

He inputted a fillet radius wrong (mistyping?). Otherwise the number of faces and edges is preserved. Topology preservation seem to have been achieved. The footprint is the same. There are some geometry changes, mainly because he used a Variable Fillet instead of a Chord Width Fillet.

 

Maybe I am missing something. Could you post a picture showing where the topology changes?

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:42:14 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

I do not think no one should feel bad for not winning despite being closed where one or other user also had made a mistake or his/her model was not 100% per rules (like changes in topology). And like other I also feel that these challenges are for finding out best of solutions and breaking the myths rather than for points (unless some can exchange them for beer). So we all should be good to learn and everyone is a winner

By: Deepak Gupta  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:43:51 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Alin Vargatu wrote:

...I was also surprised to see how many of us made a basic mistake, as simple as typing the wrong value in the Fillet Property Manager: Vahid, Ryan, Thomas, Cagin are just a few examples. Should we just consider these occurrences mistyping and ignore them?...

 

As long as typing the correct value works, yes their submissions should be considered as if the typo didn't happen.

I suppose it would be nice if they resubmitted with the typos corrected, but that is just extra work for you Alin as you will need to recheck them.

By: Rick Becker  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:44:34 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Rick Becker wrote:

 

Alin Vargatu wrote:

...I was also surprised to see how many of us made a basic mistake, as simple as typing the wrong value in the Fillet Property Manager: Vahid, Ryan, Thomas, Cagin are just a few examples. Should we just consider these occurrences mistyping and ignore them?...

 

As long as typing the correct value works, yes their submissions should be considered as if the typo didn't happen.

I suppose it would be nice if they resubmitted with the typos corrected, but that is just extra work for you Alin as you will need to recheck them.

I like that. Too bad I cannot create a poll to ensure that all participants agree with this rule change (just for this challenge, of course).

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:46:04 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

If you look closely, all faces have moved outwards slightly.

By: Deepak Gupta  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:47:09 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Deepak Gupta wrote:

 

If you look closely, all faces have moved outwards slightly.

 

Thanks, Deepak. I see it now.

Would be interesting to find out if this a software issue (maybe due to internal tolerances), or a workflow issue.

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:50:33 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Hi Alin, thank you for the detailed review and comments. In this particular case I have used feature recognition and the variable fillet is from the auto created by it. If I have opted not to recognize the same I should have to delete those first and recreate by Chord Width Fillet after the move face execution, which will add three more features to the tree. So I have not opted that. BTW does it make any change to the geometry there?

Once again appreciate your patience and time..

 

SREERAJ

Redecos Technologies.

By: Redecos Technologies  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:54:07 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

These are the original files, before and after, using features. SW2017 format.

 

Why does a global Move Face Command, using pure translation, affect the position of some faces? We need to figure this one out!

 

I do not see this in the third attached file (SW2015) - Global Move Face. Is this a bug, or am I missing something?

By: Alin Vargatu  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:01:04 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

..last minute Friday playground (repaired in 2012).... quick correction R1.25

2012z1.png

By: Paul Salvador  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:05:05 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Embarrassing that I erred on the fillet on the back...  I remember speeding through the back portion since that was "the easy part" and forgot to double check it. Whereas I must have checked all the features on the front several times.

 

I'm reminded of a trick from Ed Eaton at SOLIDWORKS World where he would put a checkmark symbol √ (technically Square Root but looks like a checkmark) alt + 251 in the feature tree on all the features he had verified as "good"... may need to start employing that on these types of challenges!

 

Trust your discretion on the judging... I definitely had a few college professors who would have been happy to fail the entire class in this scenario... any outcome other than that is a happy surprise

By: Ryan Navarro  Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:15:59 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Will open an SR on the issue with changing footprint after bulk Move Face feature.

 

I suspect that the fact that the unmoving faces act as anchors, and considering that moving ones go along their U-V curves, the edges at the intersection of the moving faces are fluid. In effect, several UNTRIM/TRIM operations are completed in the process.

By: Alin Vargatu  Sat, 11 Nov 2017 13:39:44 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Alin,

Thanks for posting the "answer part". I re-thought my approach (attached) and compared the Mass Properties. Pleased to see mine and yours are almost identical (volume & surface area). When I overlaid the two parts in an assembly, it is the position of those chord fillets that are different. (SW2018)

Steps:

1. Import and run diagnostics.

2. Use interactive feature recognition on all the fillets impacted by the yellow faces. Did it one fillet set at a time. I see that the 2 Chord fillets were recognized as VarFillets.

3. Moved the feature bar back to be above all those fillet features.

4. Moved the yellow faces up.

5. Rolled the feature tree to the end. All fillets rebuilt without errors.

WLT Revised-Feature Tree.jpg

Mass Properties-Bill.jpg

Mass Properties-Alin.jpg

By: Bill Toft  Sat, 11 Nov 2017 16:14:32 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

I was afraid that the topic of this challenge would not be very popular, and I am glad to see I was wrong. We received many different solutions and we identified several issues that need to be further researched.

 

I am mindful that I went overboard with the rules, so I decided to relax them (only for this challenge) for awarding the prizes. I overlooked simple mistyping errors, so please accept that.

 

This time our sponsors were more generous than ever. Let's applaud the essential contribution to the very existence of these challenges that John Stoltzfus, Jim Steinmeyer, Todd Blacksher, Dan Pihlaja and one mysterious benefactor made recently.

 

Congratulations to all Winners of the 12th WPUC:

10,000 points: Vahid Mostofi

10,000 points: Ingvar Magnusson

2,000 points: Redecos Technologies, Deepak Gupta, cagin gergin, Ryan Navarro, Krzysztof W., Thomas Voetmann

1,000 points: Bill Toft

By: Alin Vargatu  Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:25:57 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Thank you. it is only possible for me to transfer my points here

By: Çağın Gergin  Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:12:09 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Congratulations to ALL of the worthy winners!

 

Dave.

By: Dave Bear  Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:27:13 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Çağın Gergin wrote:

 

Thank you. it is only possible for me to transfer my points here

Çağın Gergin, I transferred the points to the account you used when you provided the solution. You can transfer the points yourself between the two accounts. Just use the badge transferring system.

By: Alin Vargatu  Wed, 15 Nov 2017 12:16:20 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

cagin gergin and Çağın Gergin
I had to have two accounts. but I want to use the new one. and I want to transfer the points I earned in 2000 to the new ones.

By: Çağın Gergin  Wed, 15 Nov 2017 14:40:47 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Even more so, I would like to applaud Alin Vargatu for the time and thought he puts into these challenges for all of the great teaching that comes from them.

By: Jim Steinmeyer  Wed, 15 Nov 2017 14:47:13 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

Çağın Gergin wrote:

 

cagin gergin and Çağın Gergin
I had to have two accounts. but I want to use the new one. and I want to transfer the points I earned in 2000 to the new ones.

Just give yourself badges with points.

By: Alin Vargatu  Wed, 15 Nov 2017 20:36:31 GMT
Re: The 12th Weekly Power-User Challenge (November 3rd, 2017) - Revision of an Imported Body

tnx .. i do

By: Çağın Gergin  Thu, 16 Nov 2017 11:32:10 GMT
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